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  • 1.  Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-09-2023 10:33
    Is there a way to bring the description on Preventive Maintenance Work Orders in from the assigned Job Plan instead of the Preventive Maintenance application. This would be very helpful when using the Job Plan Sequencing portion of the application.
    Thanks
    #WorkManagement

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    Harvey Starrett
    City of Henderson
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  • 2.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-10-2023 08:39
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    We have the same scenario on some of our PMs. If you leave the PM description blank, the job plan description will populate the work order description. 
    To easily identify the PM record, we added the job plan description to the list view. 



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    Petra Harris
    Wake County Public School System
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  • 3.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-10-2023 09:10
    Another approach I used a few times was:  Since I knew when the PMWOGen cron task would run and create the Work Orders, I created an Escalation that would run shortly after that, looking for WOs where the JPNum = yourjpnum which then ran a Set Value action to change the WO Description to something more useful.

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    Travis Herron
    Pensacola Christian College
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  • 4.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-10-2023 11:11
    We have the JP Description pulled into the WO List View so it's visible without having to click into the Work Order.  Added bonus is you can filter/search by JP description from the WO List View.

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    gail smith
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  • 5.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-10-2023 16:52
    Hi Harvey,

    As Petra has pointed out, if you leave the PM description empty, the resulting work order will have the job plan description as the work order description.

    However, this leaves you with PM's that you don't know what they are for.  Therefore we have created an automation script that will take the job plan description if the work order is from a PM.  There are a number of samples of this code out in the wild.

    Your request is not untypical and perhaps we should raise an RFE to have a flag on the PM so a choice can be made if the work order description comes from the PM or the JP.

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    Regards,
    Craig Kokay
    ISW
    Maximo Practice Manager
    eMail: ckokay@isw.net.au
    Phone: +61-411-682-040

    #IBMChampion2022
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  • 6.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-14-2023 06:06
    Very interesting.  I couldn't find anything on IBM Ideas!, so I have raised one.  See -- >https://ibm-ai-apps.ideas.ibm.com/ideas/MASM-I-881and vote

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    Regards,
    Craig Kokay
    ISW
    Maximo Practice Manager
    eMail: ckokay@isw.net.au
    Phone: +61-411-682-040

    #IBMChampion2022
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  • 7.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-14-2023 16:44
    Nice write-up @Craig Kokay. Ok everyone else, you know this is a great option to have, so get in there and vote, and socialize this to get others to vote as well!!!​

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    Christopher Winston
    Projetech Inc.
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  • 8.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-15-2023 20:48
    Edited by Shannon Rotz 01-16-2023 00:20
    Hi Harvey:

    I was able to do that as follows:
    1.  In DB Config, I added a YORN field to the PM object called "USEJPDESC".  The users then have the option to use the Job Plan description OR the PM description.
    2.  In Conditional Expression Manager, I created a condition called "USEJPDESC".  The expression would be:  :PM.USEJPDESC = 1 (don't forget the ":" in front of PM).  I left the "Always Evaluate?" flag off.
    3.  In Domains, I made an adjustment to the JP2WO domain (this is an OOB domain - you should have it).  
          -  In the "Crossover fields" section, I added a new row with DESCRIPTION in both the Source Field and the Destination Field.
          - (Here's the critical component) In the "Condition on Destination" field, I put the USEJPDESC condition (you would think it should be in the "Condition on Source", but it's not.  I think this is because the Job Plan data is copied to the work order AFTER the PM data).

    Voila!  It worked.
    Screen Shot - Job Plan Description Crossover to Work Order


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    Shannon Rotz
    InComm Solutions Inc.
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  • 9.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-16-2023 09:18
    Hi Shannon,

    I like your solution, but there is no OOTB domain called JP2WO.  It will be a custom Crossover domain.

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    Regards,
    Craig Kokay
    ISW
    Maximo Practice Manager
    eMail: ckokay@isw.net.au
    Phone: +61-411-682-040

    #IBMChampion2022
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  • 10.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-16-2023 18:58
    Well, I thought I remember it being OOB, but it's entirely possible that I could have added it sometime in the distance past, and forgot I'd done it lol.  Thanks for the correction.

    Shannon

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    Shannon Rotz
    InComm Solutions Inc.
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  • 11.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-16-2023 13:06
    Good work. Nice solution Shannon

    Congrats

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    André Cordeiro
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  • 12.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-16-2023 18:58
    You're welcome - glad to help.

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    Shannon Rotz
    InComm Solutions Inc.
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  • 13.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-16-2023 19:00
    Edited by Shannon Rotz 01-16-2023 19:00
    Correction:  apparently this is NOT an OOB domain - you'll have to add it.  I guess I added it sometime in the distant past and forgot that I'd done it.  It happens lol

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    Shannon Rotz
    InComm Solutions Inc.
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  • 14.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-16-2023 10:54
    This has my vote!

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    Julie Shaw
    Projetech Inc.
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  • 15.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-17-2023 17:56
    I would like to Thank everyone that offered suggestions & Craig for elevating it to IBM. Looks like a lot of people have been asking this question for a long time. It makes sense for IBM to make that option available to the users. Hopefully we will all find a solution in the responses that fits your business needs until a more permanent solution is implemented at the developer level.
    Thanks again!

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    Harvey Starrett
    City of Henderson
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  • 16.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-18-2023 17:07
    Just FYI, IBM has updated the status on the 'idea' to "Future Consideration"

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    Christopher Winston
    Projetech Inc.
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  • 17.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-18-2023 23:09
    Hi Harvey:. The solution I posted did not work for you?



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    Shannon Rotz
    InComm Solutions Inc.
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  • 18.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-30-2023 10:58
    Good Morning Shannon
       Thanks for the information. Because of the number of different groups here at City of Henderson using Maximo we have to run something affecting the Data Base through a "Change Control Board". So, we are working through them to see if the other groups have a need for this. I will try to keep everyone informed as to the outcome.
    Thanks Again
    Harvey

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    Harvey Starrett
    City of Henderson
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  • 19.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-18-2023 22:18
    I have seen where an ACTION is used to concatenate the PM with the Job Plan and triggered using an ESCALATION; this was done so that the PM description and Job Plan cadence e.g., 3M, 6M, 1Y are all part of the work order description. ​

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    Will Zurkan
    Symbotic
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  • 20.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-19-2023 00:11
    Hi Will,

    I'd be very careful as concatenating the PM desc + JP desc you can very easily exceed the work order desc length.  You would have to trim it to the correct length.  This is why I didn't put in the RFE a suggestion to have that as an option.  I don't like when the text gets cut off.

    In fact the PM.DESCRIPTION, JOBPLAN.DESCRITPION, JOBTASK.DESCRIPTION and ROUTE_STOP.DESCRIPTION should all be the same length as the WORKORDER.DESCRIPTION as any one of these can become the work order description.  It's just that IBM hasn't correctly defined the SAMEASOBECT and SAMEASATTRIBUTE.

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    Regards,
    Craig Kokay
    ISW
    Maximo Practice Manager
    eMail: ckokay@isw.net.au
    Phone: +61-411-682-040

    #IBMChampion2023
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  • 21.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 01-19-2023 12:11
    Hi Craig. You have a valid concern... it is not a show stopper, but there is a propensity to get a warning when the description exceeds field length. It becomes a hassle when trying use App Import. Thanks for your most excellent insight!

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    Will Zurkan
    Symbotic
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  • 22.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 13 days ago

    Update: As of today, the idea, is planned for future release



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    Christopher Winston
    Projetech Inc.
    IBM Champion 2024
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  • 23.  RE: Work Order description from PM job plan

    Posted 11 days ago

    Fantastic!



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    erika mazza
    Region of Durham
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